Permits Filed by Disney reveals details of Epcot with Frozen attraction!

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Permits Filed by Disney reveals details of Epcot with Frozen attraction!

I wondered if anyone else had read this article and gone through all the permits attached?

http://www.inquisitr.com/1753965/permits-filed-by-disney-reveal-details-and-much-more-coming-to-epcot-with-frozen-attraction/

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It does say in the last sentence that a "kingdom of Arendelle land" has not been confirmed or announced. Here's hoping that we're actually getting a new country in WS??? I do remember some time back that a rather accomplished Imagineer had been assigned to EPCOT and it was thought that big changes were coming. Hopefully the permits are related to that and not to yet more Frozenification of the parks. I liked the movie ok and I love the music, but enough already. I know it's a huge cash cow and given it's impressive achievements, it deserves a significant presence in the parks, but all of this knee-jerk reaction stuff has to stop.

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I agree with Alicemouse - the movie was alright and the music is good, but STOP! Enough with Frozen already.

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I'm okay with the meet & greet building because unlike the Maelstrom redesign, this is not in the middle of the Norway Pavilion, it's adjacent. Other Princesses from "mythical" Kingdoms have or had indoor meet and greets in Epcot in the countries which inspired them, I can wrap my head around that, there is plenty of precedent.

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Not a fan. They keep tearing away at Norway. They destroyed the viking ship. There's now very little in Norway that has anything to do with Norway. They do employ REAL NORWEGIAN GIRLS if you can't get in to see Anna & Elsa. They don't seem to mind getting asked the dumb tourist questions. What's with the trolls? Is Frozen just like Norway? Do you eat a lot of fish? Aren't the vikings from Norway? Do Norwegians like trolls? What's the deal with trolls?

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I'm sat watching frozen on the Disney movie channel, so it's not that I'm anti-frozen, however one thing I loved about visiting Epcot for the 1st time was the fact it was themed on places and not the films.

I liked the meet and greets and seeing how the movies were linked to the places. But the thing I loved the most was the authenticy of the countries, the people sharing stories about their home, visiting England to chat about England and so on.

I would like to see WS kept to being country specific not fictional fun - that's what Magic kingdom is there for. I am keeping fingers crossed that Disney do not blur those lines too much.

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A meet and greet pavilion is great. Frozen I don't care about but other characters could appear that.

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Brinbunny wrote:

I would like to see WS kept to being country specific not fictional fun

So - you believe that all of the characters and the Agent P adventure should be moved out of World Showcase? What about Santa Claus during Holidays Around the World? Does he need to go too?

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Kristen K. wrote:
Brinbunny wrote:

I would like to see WS kept to being country specific not fictional fun

So - you believe that all of the characters and the Agent P adventure should be moved out of World Showcase? What about Santa Claus during Holidays Around the World? Does he need to go too?

Hold on, wait a minute! Santa Claus is not fiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Angry

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Originally the characters paid tribute to EPCOT, by dressing up in Future World Costumes, and the costumes from the countries. I think each country has a Mickey and Minnie costume. New characters like Figment, Dream Finder, various acts, robots, etc, were invented at EPCOT. I loved those the most because they only represented EPCOT, my favorite park. So that's why we fans are defensive when outside content comes into EPCOT. It's OK, but we don't want what we originally loved to be destroyed like too many pavilions have already.

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I would have to think that the new meet and greet building should be a good thing. Hopefully, it'll be much larger in size, capacity and be air-conditioned. There was so much jaw-dropping shock and the perception of insanity when wait times spiked between 4-5 hours every day for the meet and greet at Epcot.

But I'm perplexed. Are there going to be separate Norway and Arendelle pavilions or go by one name but not the other? My feeling is probably the latter. I mean, Aladdin and Jasmine do their meet and greets in Morocco pavilion but their movie and story is not from actual Morocco. So who knows if the new meet and greet space and Frozen attraction will be labeled on the park maps as Norway or Arendelle attractions.

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Kristen K. wrote:
Brinbunny wrote:

I would like to see WS kept to being country specific not fictional fun

So - you believe that all of the characters and the Agent P adventure should be moved out of World Showcase? What about Santa Claus during Holidays Around the World? Does he need to go too?

I liked agent P, it complimented what was already there, I would not have liked a full on ride, Santa is worldwide and real. I just feel that I enjoyed the countries more without them being dominated by films, I liked meeting the characters that belonged to those places.

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I liked meeting the characters that belonged to those places.

But that's what I'm saying Brin. The characters that are at all of the Epcot meet and greets belong to the country that their story is from.

Snow White, is a German folk tale, she's in Germany.
Aladdin is a Middle Eastern folk tale, they're in Morocco.
Mary Poppin & Alice in Wonderland, are in the UK because that's where the stories are from.
Beauty and the Beast is French in origin, Belle is in France.
The Mulan meet and Greet is in China.

The Snow Queen - Disneyfied as 'Frozen' - was written by Hans Christian Anderson, who is a Danish author, which at the time he was born was in the "Kingdom of Denmark and Norway." Hence, Norway is where that meet and greet belongs.

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Originally the characters paid tribute to EPCOT, by dressing up in Future World Costumes, and the costumes from the countries .. .. So that's why we fans are defensive when outside content comes into EPCOT.

If Brin had grown-up in Epcot and remembered those days you're talking about then I'd give her that yearning for nostalgia. I can remember the tall giant headed dolls that were the original the characters for each pavilion. Guests didn't connect with those dolls. I also remember the Disney Characters on the double decker bus. I loved that, but we haven't had that since the turn of the century. What we have now is Princesses and their friends in the country of origin of their stories, and when you look at that it makes an Ana and Elsa in meet and greet Norway appropriate.

I'm not a big fan of 'Frozen' in fact I would be perfectly happy if it just all went away, but I don't believe that the argument that Norway is not Arendelle is a valid when discussing a meet and greet location. It's a fallacy, the precedent has already been set around World Showcase for every other Princess.

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MrHub wrote:
Kristen K. wrote:
Brinbunny wrote:

I would like to see WS kept to being country specific not fictional fun

So - you believe that all of the characters and the Agent P adventure should be moved out of World Showcase? What about Santa Claus during Holidays Around the World? Does he need to go too?

Hold on, wait a minute! Santa Claus is not fiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Angry

awesome

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A little off the original topic, but still characters in EPCOT...I miss the space people Mickey & friends in FW. The first time we went to Disney, we stopped at Kennedy Space Center on the way. I don't remember seeing a single character at MK (I'm sure we did, but I honestly couldn't have cared less about characters at that time), but I remember those space suits and I LOVED it.

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Sorry for the confusion, the meet and greet is a great thing, as we should all respect where our princesses come from, I was referring to the whacking great building that looks like it may be the frozen ride. I loved the fact they remembered to put Ariel in Askerhaus, being a Hans Christian Andersen fan. My opinion was only about the possible ride.

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Brinbunny wrote:
... I loved the fact they remembered to put Ariel in Askerhaus, being a Hans Christian Andersen fan. My opinion was only about the possible ride.

Wasn't Hans Christian Andersen Danish?

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ScottFL wrote:
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... I loved the fact they remembered to put Ariel in Askerhaus, being a Hans Christian Andersen fan. My opinion was only about the possible ride.

Wasn't Hans Christian Andersen Danish?

Yes, but at the time he was alive Denmark was part of the "Kingdom of Denmark and Norway" which as a united country no longer exists.