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DVC dreams shattered

sad I am so heartbroken...as a family of 5, we need 2 vehicles since CJ works and I have to take the boys back and forth to pre-school. We've been put in a situation where we had to get a car, our truck just wasn't making it anymore. CJ drove it for years and well, it started having all kinds of problems, it was a 1996 with over 200,000 miles on it. It was paid off of course so now....yea, we have a car payment.

We bought a used car and CJ bought what he wanted because he didn't want to settle for a car he was going to hate driving every day. Used or not, it still forced a car payment upon us.

Between his job and my full time job working from home, we save a lot of money - no daycare, no expenses for me when it comes to clothing, driving every day, etc. However, when we decided to buy into DVC we were going to put $8-$10K down and then finance the remaining balance with the intent to pay it off in 2 years.

I know some people think financing a vacation home is dumb - but to me, it's just like having a car payment, people finance those all the time. I knew we'd have a $500/month payment (including saving $ for maintenance fees) but that was definitely doable. However, now, since we have a $300 car payment, this means I'd be looking to incur an extra $500 or so a month, leading to $800 or so a month I'd need to save. eek

So here I am - first of all, we found ourselves needing to finish out the basement and make it a nice area for the kids. Since I work from home I've been having a really tough time getting work done and an even tougher time talking to clients on the phone with my 3 kids running around the house acting crazy - I don't have an office, we have a fairly large living room so my desk is in a far corner of the room but nevertheless, they are in the same room with me - this has forced us to prioritize.

So, first basement work, which would take away from my down payment but I still knew I'd be able to afford a monthly payment and get it paid off early, since there's no early payoff penalty - but now with a car payment in the mix, well I'd be really stupid to put the family in such financial constraints.

This would mean we'd have a mortgage, 2 car payments (yes we're still paying on our Honda Pilot, the 'family car') and then the DVC - that's over $2,500 a month is 'extra' bills! eek

In today's severely unstable economy, I think that would be a very very bad move. Unless we can really comb through our bills and see what we can cut back on (groceries are our biggest expense - after the mortgage. We spend almost $800 a month for our family!) I don't know how we'll do it.

I keep thinking it's only for 2 years - I'll get the DVC paid off and then we'll have $ freed up again. Do it now while the kids are little and don't mind wearing the non brand clothes I buy, cause once they're older, they will get expensive!

I MIGHT be able to buy into DVC, next year but that screws up my plan laugh

I'm so sad.

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I know it's a bummer but I think you're very smart not to over-extend yourself in the era of uncertainty. And not getting DVC doesn't mean you can't do a Disney trip if the opportunity arises. Say you have a windfall or they find a really cheap deal. And of course you don't want to forego more "need-like" expenses (a car for commuting) for DVC. So I'd look at it this way -- it doesn't necessarily preclude you from Disney and it sounds like a wise decision. Sorry that things aren't going as planned though. sad

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I know it's a bummer but I think you're very smart not to over-extend yourself in the era of uncertainty. And not getting DVC doesn't mean you can't do a Disney trip if the opportunity arises. Say you have a windfall or they find a really cheap deal. And of course you don't want to forego more "need-like" expenses (a car for commuting) for DVC. So I'd look at it this way -- it doesn't necessarily preclude you from Disney and it sounds like a wise decision. Sorry that things aren't going as planned though. sad

I know, I keep doing numbers and I keep thinking we can squeak it in and be okay - just 2 years of working really hard but the reality is it's a want, not a need. Even though we spend close to $6,000 on a Disney trip, it's still much easier to save that every year and just go if we feel we can afford it, than to be strapped to a payment. Dishing out $10,000 this year as a down payment is almost 2 trips for us!

So, now my goal is to save $ to pay off the stinking cars. If I can accomplish that in 2 years, then we can re-evaluate the DVC membership IF there are any places available to buy new - I don't want to buy a resale.

However, we still REALLY want to go next year so...we can go, the 5 of us, and stay at the Poly muchlove or we can make it 6 of us again (MIL) and stay somewhere cheaper. My opinion? While I love her and have fun when she's along, I think it may be time for an immediate family vacation, just CJ and I wit our kids. They are getting older and easier to handle. Next year we'd like to go in May again. Olivia will be 7, Dante 4 and Wyatt 3 - so no diapers, no 4 hour middle of the day naps laugh

I'm just soo bummed. Damn me for being practical.

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Congratulations, UL. You're making the right choice for your family. 2 years is a long enough time that unexpected emergencies and, God forbid, tragedies could occur.

We recently made the decision to stay in our current home instead of moving to a "dream home" that cost twice as much. The deciding factor was that we knew we would be more stressed out by strapping ourselves financially than would be compensated for by living in the great place. We enjoy our life where we are, we can make it work, and we know we have the money in the bank. Once we can move to our "dream home" comfortably and stress-free, we'll do it. And enjoy it even more because we know we made the right decision.

The good news is that you can still go to WDW, most likely, next year! And DVC will always be there--they're not going to stop building anytime soon as far as I know (you can buy into the new Hawaii DVC!).

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UnbalancedLibra wrote:
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I know it's a bummer but I think you're very smart not to over-extend yourself in the era of uncertainty. And not getting DVC doesn't mean you can't do a Disney trip if the opportunity arises. Say you have a windfall or they find a really cheap deal. And of course you don't want to forego more "need-like" expenses (a car for commuting) for DVC. So I'd look at it this way -- it doesn't necessarily preclude you from Disney and it sounds like a wise decision. Sorry that things aren't going as planned though. sad

I know, I keep doing numbers and I keep thinking we can squeak it in and be okay - just 2 years of working really hard but the reality is it's a want, not a need. Even though we spend close to $6,000 on a Disney trip, it's still much easier to save that every year and just go if we feel we can afford it, than to be strapped to a payment. Dishing out $10,000 this year as a down payment is almost 2 trips for us!

So, now my goal is to save $ to pay off the stinking cars. If I can accomplish that in 2 years, then we can re-evaluate the DVC membership IF there are any places available to buy new - I don't want to buy a resale.

However, we still REALLY want to go next year so...we can go, the 5 of us, and stay at the Poly muchlove or we can make it 6 of us again (MIL) and stay somewhere cheaper. My opinion? While I love her and have fun when she's along, I think it may be time for an immediate family vacation, just CJ and I wit our kids. They are getting older and easier to handle. Next year we'd like to go in May again. Olivia will be 7, Dante 4 and Wyatt 3 - so no diapers, no 4 hour middle of the day naps laugh

I'm just soo bummed. Damn me for being practical.

I'll promise you this -- Either they will still have stuff for sale or they will have built something new. There's no way Disney's going to let people who want DVC points not be able to buy them. awesome

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SpaceAce wrote:
Congratulations, UL. You're making the right choice for your family. 2 years is a long enough time that unexpected emergencies and, God forbid, tragedies could occur.

We recently made the decision to stay in our current home instead of moving to a "dream home" that cost twice as much. The deciding factor was that we knew we would be more stressed out by strapping ourselves financially than would be compensated for by living in the great place. We enjoy our life where we are, we can make it work, and we know we have the money in the bank. Once we can move to our "dream home" comfortably and stress-free, we'll do it. And enjoy it even more because we know we made the right decision.

The good news is that you can still go to WDW, most likely, next year! And DVC will always be there--they're not going to stop building anytime soon as far as I know (you can buy into the new Hawaii DVC!).

Oh, I am sure you are both so disappointed. It stinks being practical sometimes. You're right though, you'd be in this beautiful new place and the financial stress could just make it so unhappy there anyway.

I REALLY wanted to buy into BLT - but well, if I can afford a trip to WDW every year and stay at the Poly I'll be okay, lol

I hate having to tell MIL she can't come with us but the fact is that if she can't pay her own way or at least part of it well, I cannot afford to pay for her every year, so maybe once ever 3 years or something. That was the upside to DVC, I'd ever have to worry about having to find a resort to fit all of us.

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Brad wrote:

I'll promise you this -- Either they will still have stuff for sale or they will have built something new. There's no way Disney's going to let people who want DVC points not be able to buy them. awesome

I'm sure you're right. BLT was just so perfect though! sad

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UnbalancedLibra wrote:

Oh, I am sure you are both so disappointed. It stinks being practical sometimes. You're right though, you'd be in this beautiful new place and the financial stress could just make it so unhappy there anyway.

I REALLY wanted to buy into BLT - but well, if I can afford a trip to WDW every year and stay at the Poly I'll be okay, lol

I hate having to tell MIL she can't come with us but the fact is that if she can't pay her own way or at least part of it well, I cannot afford to pay for her every year, so maybe once ever 3 years or something. That was the upside to DVC, I'd ever have to worry about having to find a resort to fit all of us.



It was disappointing, but sometimes you have to make those decisions that you know will make you better off in the future.

Regarding your MIL, that's seriously tough. What a conversation! Maybe she pays half her cost ever other year... Ah, what do I know. Those relationships are so delicate!

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Oh, I am sure you are both so disappointed. It stinks being practical sometimes. You're right though, you'd be in this beautiful new place and the financial stress could just make it so unhappy there anyway.

I REALLY wanted to buy into BLT - but well, if I can afford a trip to WDW every year and stay at the Poly I'll be okay, lol

I hate having to tell MIL she can't come with us but the fact is that if she can't pay her own way or at least part of it well, I cannot afford to pay for her every year, so maybe once ever 3 years or something. That was the upside to DVC, I'd ever have to worry about having to find a resort to fit all of us.



It was disappointing, but sometimes you have to make those decisions that you know will make you better off in the future.

Regarding your MIL, that's seriously tough. What a conversation! Maybe she pays half her cost ever other year... Ah, what do I know. Those relationships are so delicate!

I know, but I already told her the situation and so what the heck, we've taken her twice already!

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UnbalancedLibra wrote:
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I'll promise you this -- Either they will still have stuff for sale or they will have built something new. There's no way Disney's going to let people who want DVC points not be able to buy them. awesome

I'm sure you're right. BLT was just so perfect though! sad

Maybe they'll have something ready for you at the Poly by then. biggrin

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I find it hard to feel sorry that you'll have to stay at the POLY instead of BLT! laugh

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I find it hard to feel sorry that you'll have to stay at the POLY instead of BLT! laugh

This is a good point. There's really no bad option here! awesome

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Sorry to hear about your car situation, but I'd be just as stoked about the Poly as BLT. And like SpaceAce says it's always better to feel comfortable with your decision than to stretch.

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Brad wrote:
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I'll promise you this -- Either they will still have stuff for sale or they will have built something new. There's no way Disney's going to let people who want DVC points not be able to buy them. awesome

I'm sure you're right. BLT was just so perfect though! sad

Maybe they'll have something ready for you at the Poly by then. biggrin


THAT would be a dream muchlove

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I find it hard to feel sorry that you'll have to stay at the POLY instead of BLT! laugh

LOL - I know! laugh

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I find it hard to feel sorry that you'll have to stay at the POLY instead of BLT! laugh

This is a good point. There's really no bad option here! awesome


Yes, very true..Looking at the bright side mickey

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dsoup wrote:
Sorry to hear about your car situation, but I'd be just as stoked about the Poly as BLT. And like SpaceAce says it's always better to feel comfortable with your decision than to stretch.

Thanks.

It's true - I should just be glad I'm going.

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UnbalancedLibra wrote:
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I'll promise you this -- Either they will still have stuff for sale or they will have built something new. There's no way Disney's going to let people who want DVC points not be able to buy them. awesome

I'm sure you're right. BLT was just so perfect though! sad

Maybe they'll have something ready for you at the Poly by then. biggrin


THAT would be a dream muchlove


Ooh! good point. Lots of space to build over there...

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bali wrote:

Ooh! good point. Lots of space to build over there...

Someone - suggest it NOW! lol

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Ooh! good point. Lots of space to build over there...

Someone - suggest it NOW! lol

We'll just get MT to take care of it, since we all know who his alter-ego is.

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Ooh! good point. Lots of space to build over there...

Someone - suggest it NOW! lol

We'll just get MT to take care of it, since we all know who his alter-ego is.


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We'll just get MT to take care of it, since we all know who his alter-ego is.

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MouseTraveler wrote:
Brad wrote:

We'll just get MT to take care of it, since we all know who his alter-ego is.

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That's MT spreading his pixie dust.

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Mouse Traveler has been OUT of dust for a while. Nice to have a supply on hand.

You guys cross your fingers. I have a business meeting tomorrow that will directly impact whether I get to plan my long awaited fall "WDW/Cruise" trip combo.

If all goes well over the next few weeks, Solo's gonna hear me yelling all the way up there in New England!

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MouseTraveler wrote:
Mouse Traveler has been OUT of dust for a while. Nice to have a supply on hand.

You guys cross your fingers. I have a business meeting tomorrow that will directly impact whether I get to plan my long awaited fall "WDW/Cruise" trip combo.

If all goes well over the next few weeks, Solo's gonna hear me yelling all the way up there in New England!

Good luck chief!