Hard Ticket After-Hours Party?

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Hard Ticket After-Hours Party?

I'm sure by now most of us have caught a glimpse of the new after hours party that will be available at Magic Kingdom on select day this spring. If you've missed the info, it's a 3-hour party after regular operating hours that features small crowds, select attractions, character meet & greets, free ice cream bars, and "more". The party hours are 10pm-1am or 11pm-2am depending on the published park closing time, but the ticket will gain you admission to the park as early as 7pm. The price tag on this is $149/person.

First, this party sounds like the "free" DVC member party that we attended two weeks ago. Our party began at 9:30 and ran until 12:00. We had free ice cream bars and chips with cups of water prepared for us to drink. The available characters were Robin Hood & Friar Tuck/ Little John, Aladdin & Jasmine, Darkling Duck, Launchpad McQuack, Cinderella & Charming, Aurora & Phillip, Rapunzel & Flynn, Tiana & Naveen, and the HM tightrope walker. There may have been others that we had previously done pictures with and thus, ignored. Attendance was such that we were able to get photos with all of these characters except for Jasmine & Aladdin, see the Cadaver Dans perform, ride 7DMT with a 25-minute wait, eat free chips and a Mickey bar, and see the awesome event fireworks. It was a great event and we accomplished a ton, but it was a bit of a blur because we were running from one thing to the next all night long. And we had 30 minutes longer than the proposed party schedule allows for.

We were able to see and do about the same amount of characters, events, and attractions as we could at a typical MNSSHP or MVMCP because the lines were much more reasonable. However, there was no parade at all. A selling point here might be to run a former beloved parade--say, Spectromagic--and include the same awesome fireworks that we saw. Maybe since they are clearly using older characters to find their "rare" characters, make it a "retro-Disney" party and market it that way. Then chop off about $50 and add another hour. I imagine that the pricing is coming from the fact that this is a more costly event to operate than Club Villain, which I believe is running at $99/person. But as guests, we clearly equate it more with MNSSHP or MVMCP, which are 2 hours longer for half the cost and have a parade.

I'll reserve final judgement until we hear reports from attendees, but I'm really skeptical that they'l be able to provide $150 worth of value in 3 hours. We had a blast at the party, but as a paid event with virtually no advance details provided, I wouldn't have paid $150 to get in. And if I had, I'd have felt ripped off. At $50/hour for the official party component, I don't think this one will probably hold enough value to justify the cost. The only impact on day guests will be the fact that these party goers will be able to enter MK at 7:00pm, so expect the park of feel very crowded at the end of the evening on party days.

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I heard briefly about this, but this is the most information I have heard on it. I feel like its not worth that much money. I mean look at all the stuff you get with MNSSHP, 2 chances to see the parade, fireworks, free candy, special meet and greets such as Captain Jack Sparrow, 7 Dwarves, Jack and Sally, Duffy (he was there in 2011 not sure if he still is) plus all the normal characters in their Halloween get ups. As well as Villains, and Hocus Pocus show, and its like $68 a ticket. Plus it runs from 7pm until 2am, at least the one I went to do I think it varies by the night.
Club Villain opened at $99 a person but shot up to $138 a person. But you also get a whole buffet of food and free beer, wine, and specialty drinks.
I am not sure you are getting enough bang for your buck here. They seem to be trial marketing a lot of things lately. I know Club Villain was a trial it had great ratings so they bumped the price and added more dates. I personally will just stick with the extra magic hour at night opposed to paying that kind of money for three hours. Even with the free mickey bars not really worth it to me.

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MAYBE if we were still an "adults only" couple, we would consider this only if we knew for sure that we would get to see more rare characters. But especially with a two year old in tow, there is now way this would be worth while for us. "Free" ice cream doesn't justify that kind of money to me. Even Club Villain that has cocktails and appetizers is hard for me to justify at that price point.

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That being said, I love the idea. Just a bit to rich for my taste.

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Personally, I think it is just another money grab. I love Disney, and we will continue to vacation with them, but this month has just been one price increase after another mixed in with extra $$$ for enhanced items (parking, extra time in the park). I know it is a business and price increases happen, but maybe they need slow down on how many changes they make at once. Am I being too optimistic?

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NikkiMouse wrote:
Personally, I think it is just another money grab. I love Disney, and we will continue to vacation with them, but this month has just been one price increase after another mixed in with extra $$$ for enhanced items (parking, extra time in the park). I know it is a business and price increases happen, but maybe they need slow down on how many changes they make at once. Am I being too optimistic?

I agree. It's all starting to leave a bit of a sour taste in my mouth. The "resort fees" are one that annoy me. Just put it in the cost and don't tell me about it! We go to Disney for all the luxuries and know we're not paying for the local crappy Roach Motel. Just work in the cost and be done with it. We've been hoping to buy into DVC in the next year or two but I don't know...

Curiosity...if you are going to a park on the day of a special party, but aren't going to the party itself, is the cost of a ticket less? It's seems that at over $100 for a 1-day ticket, I'd be pretty upset if I had to leave by 7:00.

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First off - the time is just way too late for me. I would be exhausted before it even started. Second - $150 for an extra 3 hours in the park? Nope, too rich for my blood.

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TinkASL wrote:

Curiosity...if you are going to a park on the day of a special party, but aren't going to the party itself, is the cost of a ticket less? It's seems that at over $100 for a 1-day ticket, I'd be pretty upset if I had to leave by 7:00.

The regular park guests can stay until 10:00 or 11:00--whatever the regular closing time was for that day, but the experience will be diminished because you'd better believe that people with tickets for the evening special will be lining up at 6:00 and will be in the parks in full force by 7:05.

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alicemouse wrote:
TinkASL wrote:

Curiosity...if you are going to a park on the day of a special party, but aren't going to the party itself, is the cost of a ticket less? It's seems that at over $100 for a 1-day ticket, I'd be pretty upset if I had to leave by 7:00.

The regular park guests can stay until 10:00 or 11:00--whatever the regular closing time was for that day, but the experience will be diminished because you'd better believe that people with tickets for the evening special will be lining up at 6:00 and will be in the parks in full force by 7:05.

MNSSHP and MVMCP however regular guests have to be out by 7 and no, you don't get any sort of discount off the ticket price for the shortened hours for those days.

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Allie wrote:
alicemouse wrote:
TinkASL wrote:

Curiosity...if you are going to a park on the day of a special party, but aren't going to the party itself, is the cost of a ticket less? It's seems that at over $100 for a 1-day ticket, I'd be pretty upset if I had to leave by 7:00.

The regular park guests can stay until 10:00 or 11:00--whatever the regular closing time was for that day, but the experience will be diminished because you'd better believe that people with tickets for the evening special will be lining up at 6:00 and will be in the parks in full force by 7:05.

MNSSHP and MVMCP however regular guests have to be out by 7 and no, you don't get any sort of discount off the ticket price for the shortened hours for those days.

Well that's stinky.

And $150 for 3 hours is absolutely outrageous.

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Allie wrote:
alicemouse wrote:
TinkASL wrote:

Curiosity...if you are going to a park on the day of a special party, but aren't going to the party itself, is the cost of a ticket less? It's seems that at over $100 for a 1-day ticket, I'd be pretty upset if I had to leave by 7:00.

The regular park guests can stay until 10:00 or 11:00--whatever the regular closing time was for that day, but the experience will be diminished because you'd better believe that people with tickets for the evening special will be lining up at 6:00 and will be in the parks in full force by 7:05.

MNSSHP and MVMCP however regular guests have to be out by 7 and no, you don't get any sort of discount off the ticket price for the shortened hours for those days.

Correct. The regular 10:00 or 11:00 regular closing time for day guests only applies specifically to the after hours parties for this spring.

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Oh I got it now.

Yea No. Absolutely not. I think character meet and greets are my least favorite thing at Disney. I'll do some but I think they're SUPER awkward and I don't like talking to them as a character and not the real person they are. So that amount isn't even sort of worth it for me.

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TinkASL wrote:
NikkiMouse wrote:
Personally, I think it is just another money grab. I love Disney, and we will continue to vacation with them, but this month has just been one price increase after another mixed in with extra $$$ for enhanced items (parking, extra time in the park). I know it is a business and price increases happen, but maybe they need slow down on how many changes they make at once. Am I being too optimistic?

I agree. It's all starting to leave a bit of a sour taste in my mouth. The "resort fees" are one that annoy me. Just put it in the cost and don't tell me about it! We go to Disney for all the luxuries and know we're not paying for the local crappy Roach Motel. Just work in the cost and be done with it. We've been hoping to buy into DVC in the next year or two but I don't know...

Curiosity...if you are going to a park on the day of a special party, but aren't going to the party itself, is the cost of a ticket less? It's seems that at over $100 for a 1-day ticket, I'd be pretty upset if I had to leave by 7:00.

If the resort fees come to be that would probably be the last straw for me. We are already paying a resort fee for staying in Disney! The Motel 6 in Orlando is $49 a night; the values are Motel 6's that have nicer pools and have some really large decorations and for that we pay $120 plus a night. I would say that is defintely already a resort with an added fee....maybe it us just me confused

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I agree with the parties, for example the late night F&W party 2 years ago was fab, but saying that I got a cocktail in a flashy glass and 5 snack items, there was also tons of entertainment and a disco at one end and a band at the other.

That was worth $150, but just for 3 hours I'm not sure I would pay, even though I loved the late hours and less queues.

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http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/03/26/disney-world-is-so-greedy-its-brilliant.aspx

This is a really interesting point of view from the Motley Fools regarding the the Magic Kingdom After Hours Party

"Disney After Hours will be a hit, even if it flops. That's not a flub. Disney already offers guests staying at its onsite hotels access to "Extra Magic Hours," when they get exclusive access to select theme parks either an hour before they open or for three hours after they close to the general public. It is testing Disney After Hours on Thursdays because those aren't nights when the park is made available for Extra Magic Hours. That justifies Disney's move in making everyone -- even resort guests and pass holders -- pay extra for this. However, it also improves the perceived value of the perk. Even if there are far more than 3,000 resort guests enjoying Extra Magic Hours on any given day, this places a perceived $149-a-person value on the "free" perk. That's a lot more than what a family of four is paying for most of Disney's lodging options. In other words, Disney After Hours is a stealth marketing play for its growing array of onsite hotels."

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